What should we do about radical Moslems? Some say America should accept no Moslem refugees who are trying to escape the radicals. Others say we should accept many, support peaceful people who are suffering in a region America destabilized. What should we do?
Search this Pew Poll for “suicide” and it says 81% of US Moslems think suicide bombing is never justified. Yay! But 1% say it’s justified often! 7% say sometimes! 5% say rarely. Estimates are that the US has 5-8 million Moslems, so about 50,000 American Moslems say suicide bombing is often justified, and 350,000 say sometimes – that’s worrisome! (And this article has some figures for other countries, too.)
I love that our leaders say we shouldn’t panic and we shouldn’t harass Moslems. These 81% seem to express mainstream opinions.
But shouldn’t we acknowledge the rest? Shouldn’t we do more research? Who do they think the suicide bombers should bomb? If it’s invaders of Mecca, maybe that’s okay. If it’s US forces or the enemies of ISIS, we may have a problem.
Do we have a Problem?
My dad sometimes says, “Nuke ’em” about some evil country or another. Mainly it’s an expression. Even if it’s a real opinion, he’ll never hurt anyone. So maybe many, or all, of those “suicide bombings are justified” opinions are harmless. And, maybe some are saying it to provoke us. The US destabilized Iraq, then created ISIS in our prisons which has destabilized Syria. Maybe they answer that way because they think we deserve some discomfort. We don’t know.
We don’t know, but not talking about this seems wrong. It inflames those who are prone to panic. Why can’t we publicly admit the way things are?
Are they so different from Christians?
And maybe contrast it with Christians. Christians in America kill more people than Moslems- here’s an article about ten of them. But that’s not surprising- in a country of 330 million people, there are bound to be a few crazies. Christians were bloodthirsty conquerers throughout the middle ages. They burned witches and owned and often abused slaves into the 1860’s. But then so did southern Jews, too…
More recently, Christians destabilized Iraq and created ISIS in our prisons with torture…
Plus, 44% of Republicans favor turning America into a Christian theocracy, 32% of all Americans! (This is the original PPP poll results page.) That seems crazy- it’s certainly un-American. And then there’s the kind of radical anti-abortion rhetoric by people like Ted Cruz that seems to have provoked the terrorism against Planned Parenthood.
What should we do about radical Moslems? Let’s not see them where they don’t exist. Let’s not pretend they exist. Let’s not pretend they don’t exist. Let’s not pretend they’re worse than radical Christians, Jews, atheists and others. We should not over-react. We should relax, be moral and be vigilant. Let’s work through this together.
Islamic Culture is a Slave Culture
Many Muslims see us as Keffers and Dimmi’s and Blacks as slaves. Keffers sub human for Christians and Dimmi’s sub human for Jews, Black translates into Arabic as Slave. Women have no classification, they are just things in Islamic culture, lower then slaves. Talking to them as a civilized person is like a slave talking to a Master.
In the book: “The Third Choice” by Mark Durie: One choice become Islamic, second choice a slave, third death. Add one choice if you act now, Freedom.
Many Americans know a “Good Muslim” But they are wrong they know a “Bad Muslim” a Bad Muslim is a Good human. A “Good Muslim” would be following Sharia Law, killing and raping you. Islam in America is weak once it becomes strong many Bad Muslims will be become Good Muslims. Bill Warner, Center for the Study of Political Islam.
“The Hebrew Bible has 5.6% of political violence; The Islamic Trilogy Koran, Sira and Hadith have 31% political violence. “The words devoted to political violence in Islam 327,547; the Bible 34,039″ The Political violence of the Koran is eternal and universal. The Political violence of the Bible is for a particular historical time and place.” Bill Warner, Center for the Study of Political Islam.
Good Muslim, Bad Person
http://youtu.be/_KAkdrb4sHI
Dr. Bill Warner – Why Are People Afraid
https://youtu.be/Im0IisZ77QI
[Rand: This is a one hour video about facts about Islam,
not about Moslems, not even about how Islam is practiced now.]
I suggest we completely ignore what the Koran says. Apparently lots and lots of Moslems are willing to give up Sharia law, especially in Western countries, and live in peace. If we take them at their word, they can live up to it instead of living up to fears.
And, I think we should be more overt about it. Maybe every Mosque should have signs that say they do not support any other systems of law or any kind of violent acts or plans, plus a phone number where such talk could be reported anonymously. We should put up similar signs in or outside every church and synagogue as well. We shouldn’t ask others to do things we’re not willing to do, and it’d be an act of solidarity.
I liked the Pew poll because it asked some very specific questions and got specific answers. At the same time, it left much to the imagination.
In speaking with you, you suggest we adopt Israeli security strategies- lots of highly trained guards. That’s not a bad idea, but I don’t really want to pay for it unless there are more incidents. Look at the number of deaths in Israel per capita per month. Reaching that kind of level of terrorism would warrant that kind of solution. For instance, you said we should have guards at synagogues. That wouldn’t have protected the Inland Regional Center in San Bernardino ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inland_Regional_Center ) That shooting showed us that we’ll have to protect everything. If we do that, the terrorists win.
My suggestion is we should do more studies and publish the results. And we should ask Moslems for suggestions. It’s no secret that many of us are worried about “them”. If aging software engineers were the problem, if I had a guarantee that a search would be gentle and I could observe it, and only weapons (or plans) would be confiscated, I’d happily accept reasonable searches.
And maybe we should again outlaw all assault and semi-automatic weapons and round them up.
Rand, you are doing a very good job with this stuff. We could kick around every point that comes up — but — that’s what we gotta do. I think the world needs balance — and some kind of super-cybernetic/homeostatic democracy that finds organic center for every conceivable issue, all in one network. Is that nuts? Maybe.
Just to note — it’s interesting that yesterday you cite a wide-spread willingness among Muslims to give up Sharia Law — and today I posted a graphic that tends to emphasize the opposite: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10153701390075256&set=p.10153701390075256&type=3&theater
I like your point: we should ask Muslims for suggestions. Maybe we should also become aware of community-building influence-building inter-Islamic projects that might help resist or destroy anti-life ideologies. In any case, thanks for an interesting and hopeful project.
A very short video about why we shouldn’t blame ISIL on Muslims in general.
https://www.facebook.com/itvnews/videos/10153398326607672/?theater